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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-28-2011 WT Study (REGARD)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 08-28-11 wt study (june 15, 2011, pages 24-28)(regard).

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

hard among you.

JW GoneBad

I just wanted to add one more to the list of Elders with a dysfunctional family: I was at the recent D. C. for our area and heard a talk given by a brother. After the program my wife and I happened to be at a restaurant when we saw this brother and his wife also there and as matters worked out we wound up having dinner together.

This brother/Elder (who is from another circuit) comes across as an acomplished speaker. But that is where it ends. Like many of the Elders in my congregation he too lacks the freedom to speak as a father.

In the little bit of time we spent with them we learned that he also is in his 2nd marriage. He has 2 children from a previous marriage; one is D'fd while the other is inactive. His wife on the other hand has 3 children from a previous witness marriage who also are either D'fd or inactive and they have no children from their current union.

The conclusion of the matter is that the Pew Forum study that was conducted showing the low retention rate of JW youth is pretty damn accurate. And it is amazing how many of these youth who don't want anything to do with the JW religion belong to JW Elders!

So can someone help me out please? Why should we have regard for the Elders among us and what is it their working soo hard at?

Oh, and one more thing.......Thank you Blondie. Marvelous review!

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-28-2011 WT Study (REGARD)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 08-28-11 wt study (june 15, 2011, pages 24-28)(regard).

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

hard among you.

JW GoneBad

Paragragh 12 is so laughable. Everyone knows about the Pew Forum that put together a report not long ago showing the JW religion has the lowest retention rate (35%) among youth. Now, in our congregation of 13 Elders:

3 of the Elders do not have children; 2 other Elders have children under 10 years of age. Of the remaining 8 Elders:

The COBE on his 2nd marriage has 3 children 2 are in their mid 20's and do not live at home and have nothing to do with the 'Truth', his daughter does O.K.

1 Elder has a pioneer son who is reaching out for substitute C.O.

2 Elders have 2 sons each in their early to mid 30's and all four are out of the 'Truth'.

1 Elder on 2nd marriage has a daughter in her early 20s not living at home and inactive.

1 Elder on his 2nd marriage has a son in his mid-twenties D'Fd and 1 son inactive.

1 Elder has 1 son at Bethel, 1 daughter (attending another congregation) married to an Elder and 1 son D'Fd.

1 Elder on his 2nd marriage has 1 inactive daughter and 1 apostate son (not D'fd yet).

If my arithmetic serves me right of the 18 children among our BOE 6 are still in while 12 have left or near leaving the 'Truth'. That is a 33% retention rate among the Elders. Pretty Embarrassing!

Now, I've been in my current circuit for a number of years and know the make-up of the BOE in a number of other congregations and I can honestly tell you that the same dysfunctional family arrangement that I've discribed above that exists in my congregation exists through-out the circuit.

So for the WTBTS to put in print what is said in par 12....'Here the expression "presiding over" obviously includes not only teaching his children but also taking the lead in the family and "having children in subjection." Yes, elders take the lead in the congregation, helping all to be in subjection to Jehovah.'

Hell, if Elders for the most part are proven failures as fathers what sort of leadership are they providing to the congregation?

This article and last weeks' article are so laughable and insane that they border on mocking the God of the Bible as well as Jesus Christ.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-28-2011 WT Study (REGARD)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 08-28-11 wt study (june 15, 2011, pages 24-28)(regard).

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

hard among you.

JW GoneBad

I see Blondie's Comments for 8-28-2011 Watchtower Study is fresh off the press and I say....................OH YeaaaH!

Looking forward to reading your review.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-21-2011 WT Study (SHEPHERD)

by blondie in

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Blondie I had to endure one whole hour of Elders' "self-congratulating" comments during this WT Study.

We have a congregation of 160 publishers with 13 Elders. There are 21 paragraghs to this lesson. One Elder in particular commented 5 maybe 6 times during the whole lesson. Other Elders commented 1 to 3 times. On average there were 2 Elders commenting on each paragragh. That meant less time for the flock to comment.

The whole lesson was a 'brag fest' of the Elders by the Elders. Apparently there is no room nor any need of improvement among our BOE!

You raise a good question for paragraph 15:

Paul was supposed to represent the “traveling overseers” today?Why then do they not labor as Paul did to pay his own way?

I don't know one C.O. or a wife of a C.O. that does not leech off the congregation they visit. Shame on them!

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Why So Many Young People Are Leaving The Watchtower

by Jeremy C in

i have been giving a lot of thought to the young people who are leaving the watchtower organization in recent years.

last night, i was reading the thread posted by jwfacts a while back in which he provided some statistics and graphs showing the rapidly declining growth in the watchtower.

one factor that was discussed at length was the high number of young people who do not stay in the organization.

JW GoneBad

I also think this is a good topic.

I know too many families, including many families of Elders, whose children want nothing to do with the organization. It makes me wonder how an Elder can serve in his capacity as an overseer of a congregation, giving talks from the platform, etc. when it is well known by the R & F that his own children want no part of the 'truth'. In the opinion of many, an Elder has lost his freedom to speak in his capacity as spiritual leader at that point!

The WTBTS as well is very much aware of the low retention rate of JW youth. That is why for the past year or so the Society has been pushing hard the 'Family Worship' program in an attempt to stem the tide. Sadly many C.O.s have expressed concern saying that 60% or more of JW families are not having 'family worship' night.

JW youth are not dummies, they know a fraud when they see one!

Look forward to your next thread Jeremy.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-14-2011 WT Study (RECOMMEND LOVE)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 08-14-11 wt study (june 15, 2011, pages 11-15 )(recommends love).

review comments will be headed by comments.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

JW GoneBad

Blondie: Be certain and rest assured that you make sense out of the WTBTS nonsense!

As ziddina comments.......I also digest your weighty comments at leisure...

Thank you.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-07-2011 WT Study (GOOD NEWS)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 08-07-11 wt study (june 15, 2011, pages 7-11)(good news).

review comments will be headed by comments.

good news; it is, in fact, gods power for salvation.. rom.

JW GoneBad

Not too many people can take a lemon of an article like this weeks Watchtower study lesson (it was a drag!) and make lemonade out of it!

I found your comments/review much more interesting and worth reading. As always enjoyed your research.

Thank you.

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Watchtower falsification of its history

by jwfacts in

i received an email with the following information that is worth sharing.. the 2011 yearbook goes to great lengths to elevate the truthfulness of watchtower information in even minor details, and criticise information from other sources.

so it is telling that the 2010 "jehovah's witnesses - faith in action, part 1" has omitted an important element of their history when re-enacting the 1922 cedar point convention.. under the heading "tracing all things with accuracy" the 2011 yearbook states: .

"jesus said that the faithful slave would be discreet in giving the domestics "their food at the proper time.

JW GoneBad

jwfacts......to me the above pictures are yet another example of how the WTBTS speaks with a forked tongue.

Thank you for the time you have put into researching this material.

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Victoria, Australia: Steven Unthank's Press Release: JW's Hierarchy Formally Charged Today With Child Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovah's witnesses hierarchy charged.

immediate press release: 26 july 2011. link to this press release: http://wp.me/p1g1hc-4o.

worldwide church hierarchy charged with child abuse.

JW GoneBad

As the song goes ............'Every party has a party pooper!'

Barbara is right. Everyone needs to stay focused. The last thing Steven needs is resistance when he is already fighting an uphill battle. It definitely looks like he has some forward movement in his case for Childrens' Rights.

If anything else get behind him and push!

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Victoria, Australia: Steven Unthank's Press Release: JW's Hierarchy Formally Charged Today With Child Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovah's witnesses hierarchy charged.

immediate press release: 26 july 2011. link to this press release: http://wp.me/p1g1hc-4o.

worldwide church hierarchy charged with child abuse.

JW GoneBad

What does the WTBTS have to worry about or hide? The Bible basically gives us a back ground check on the life of Jesus so detailed to even include his blood line.

Logic dictates that Jehovah will indeed manuever matters so that the GB has no choice but to comply.

The winners are the children!

Message To WT Lawyers:............ Do it for the children! Do it for your children!